The dominant best clubs ever is considered base on span of
the club's consecutive glory years regardless of whether the same set of
players.
Methodology
1)
Selection : Candidates need to win the competitive domestic league title at least 1 time (STD > at least 3.5 is required) and won the highest
level of European/South American international competition at least 2 times and the total league titles combined with continental titles must be 4 within any 5 years span that is the basic requirement and The criteria of
continuity of glory years is provided in table.
Span
|
The number of allowed year without any title
|
Minimum
requirement of the year without a title based on basic requirement
|
5
Years
|
1
|
None
|
6
Years
|
1
|
International
Cup Title (STD > 3.2)
or Continental Cup runner-up |
7
Years
|
1
|
International
Cup Title
or Continental Cup runner-up |
8
Years
|
1
|
Domestic
Cup Title (STD > 3.0)
|
9
Years
|
1
|
Domestic
Cup Title (STD > 2.9)
|
* For > 9 years, it starts to count another five years span.
*Note that the allowed year without any title must not be the first or the last year of span.
2)
Calculation of Performance
The
dominant score = average seasonal performance score x trophy score / standard span years
Standard Span Years = (span years + ((maximum span years – span years)/2)/(span years x maximum span years). ;
Standard Span Years = (span years + ((maximum span years – span years)/2)/(span years x maximum span years). ;
Trophy Score = ∑ number of winning trophy x trophy coefficient x average domestic
competition standard
Trophy
Coefficient : UEFA Champion League 1.15, European/Libertadores Cup, Domestic
League, Domestic Double : 1, Domestic Cup : 0.3, European Double : 1.15,
European Triple, 1.3
Result
Result
DDB means Domestic Double
IDB means Double (International + League)
ITP means Triple (International + League + Cup)
Avr.PFM means Average Seasonal PerformanceDMN.SCR means Dominance Score
12. Real Madrid "Galacticos II" (1996 – 2003)
ITP means Triple (International + League + Cup)
Avr.PFM means Average Seasonal PerformanceDMN.SCR means Dominance Score
12. Real Madrid "Galacticos II" (1996 – 2003)
3 Times UEFA Champion League (2 Semi-Finalist)
2 Times Intercontinental Cup
Stars : Roberto Carlos, Fernando Hierro, Fernando Redondo, Luis Figo, Zinedine Zidane, Raul Gonzalez
Manager : Vicente Del Bosque
11. Bayern Munich (1970 – 1976)
1 Time DFB-Pokal
3 Time European Cup
1 Time European Double Champion
Stars : Sepp Maier, Franz Beckenbauer, Paul Breitner, Gerd Muller
Manager : Udo Lattek, Dettmar Cramer
10. Inter Milan "Catenaccio" (1962 – 1967)
2 Time European Cup (1 Runner-Up, 1 Semi-Finalist)
2 Time Intercontinental Cup
2 Time European Double Champions
Stars : Tarcisio Burgnich, Giacinto Facchetti, Luis Suarez Miramontes, Mario Corso, Sandro Mazzola
Manager : Helenio Herrara
9. Real Madrid "Galacticos III" (2012 – 2018)
Achievement : 2 Times Spanish la Liga (3 Runner-Up)
Stars : Sergio Ramos, Luka Modric, Toni Kroos, Gareth Bale, Cristiano Ronaldo4 Times UEFA Champion League (3 Semi-Finalist)
3 Times World Club Cup
League Standard : A
Manager : Zinedine Zidane
8. AC Milan (1988 – 1995)
1 Time Coppa Italia Runner-Up
3 Times European Cup (2 Runner-Up)
2 Times Intercontinental Cup
1 Time Italian Double Champion
League Standard : A+
Stars : Paolo Maldini, Franco Baresi, Frank Rijkaard, Ruud Gullit, Marco Van Basten
Manager : Arrigo Sacchi, Fabio Capello
Achievement : 6 Times State Championship
4 Times Inter-State Championship
5 Times Brasil Cup (2 Runner-Up)
2 Times Brazil Double Champions
2 Times Copa Libertadores Cup
1 Time South American Triple Champion
7. Benfica (1960 – 1968)
Achievement : 6 Times Portuguese League,
3 Times Portuguese Cup
2 Times European Cup (4 Times Runner-Up)
1 Time Portuguese Double Champion
1 Time European Double Champion
Stars:Germano, Mario Coluna, Jose Augusto, Eusebio
Manager :Bela Guttmann
6. Santos (1958 - 1966)
4 Times Inter-State Championship
5 Times Brasil Cup (2 Runner-Up)
2 Times Brazil Double Champions
2 Times Copa Libertadores Cup
1 Time South American Triple Champion
Domestic Competition Standard : B+
Stars : Gilmar, Mauro Ramos, Zito, Pepe, Pele, Countino
Manager : Luis Alfonso Perez
5. Penarol (1960 – 1968)
Achievement : 7 Times Uruguayan League
3 Times Copa Libertadores Cup (2 Times Runner-Up)
2 Times Intercontinental Cup
2 Times South American Double Champions
3 Times Copa Libertadores Cup (2 Times Runner-Up)
2 Times Intercontinental Cup
2 Times South American Double Champions
Stars : Nestor Goncalves, Pedro Rocha, Luis Cubilla, Juan Joya, Alberto Spencer
Manager : Robert Scarone, Roque Maspoli
4. Ajax Amsterdam "Total Football" (1967 – 1973)
3 Times KNVB Cup
2 Times Domestic Double Champions
3 Times European Cup (1 Runner-Up)
2 Times Dutch Double Champions
1 Time European Triple Champion
Stars : Velibor Vasovic, Ruud Krol, Johan Neeskens, Piet Keizer, Johan Cruyff
Manager : Rinus Michels, Stefan Kovacs
3. Liverpool (1975 – 1986)
1 English Double Champion
1 Time UEFA Cup
4 Times European Cup (1 Runner-Up)
2 Times European Double Champions
Stars : Rey Clemence, Alan Hansen, Graemme Souness, Kenny Dalglish, Ian Rush
Manager : Bill Shankly, Bob Paisley
Achievement:7 Times Spanish La Liga (2 Runner-Up)
1 Time Copa Del Rey (3 Runner-Up)
1 Time Spanish Double Champions
6 Time European Cup (2 Runner-Up)
2 Time European Double Champions
2. Real Madrid "Galacticos I" (1955 - 1966)
1 Time Copa Del Rey (3 Runner-Up)
1 Time Spanish Double Champions
6 Time European Cup (2 Runner-Up)
2 Time European Double Champions
Stars : Jose Santamaria, Raymond Kopa, Francisco Gento, Alfredo Di Stefano, Ferenc Puskas
Manager : Luis Chinaglia, Miguel Munoz
1. Barcelona (2008 – 2016)
Achievement : 6 Times Spanish La Liga (2 Runner-Up) 4 Times Copa Del Rey (2 Runner-Up)
3 Times UEFA Champion League (3 Semi-Finalist)
1 Time European Double Champion
2 Times European Triple Champion
3 Times UEFA Champion League (3 Semi-Finalist)
1 Time European Double Champion
2 Times European Triple Champion
Stars : Xavi Hernandez, Andreas Iniesta, Lionel Messi, Neymar
Manager : Joseph Gurdiola, Luis Enrique
Honorable Mention
River Plate "La Maquina" (1941 - 1947)
League Standard : B+
Stars : Adolfo Pedernera, Felix Loustau, Jose Manuel Moreno, Angel Labruna (All four played together just two seasons)
I don't see the point of cutting barcelona at 2012, they never really stopped being dominant.
ReplyDeleteYou take an important point to define the dominance. As reviewed, I think Barcelona's dominance side should be started at the 2008 - 2009 season as they won no title between the seasonal 2006 - 2008. Now I would clear in criteria the dominance must not be discontinued without trophy more than one season and if there is a discontinuity, the next two seasons must be continued. For this criteria, I'll check the period of dominance again.
DeleteNow this is better!
Delete15º Machester United - 95-03 : Premier League 1995-96, 1996-97, 1998-99, 1999-00, 2000-01, 2002-03
ReplyDeleteFA Cup - 1995-96, 1998-99,
Champions League 99
Mundial 99
16º Inter Milan 2006-2011
Seria A : 2005–06, 2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09, 2009–10
Copa da Italia :2004–05, 2005–2006 2009–10,2010–11
Champions League : 2009-10
Mundial de Clubes : 2010
17º Boca Juniors 98-2007
Copa Libertadores 2000, 2001 , 2003,2007
Copa Sul americana 2004 , 2005
Campeonato Argentino Clausura e Apertura 98.99.2000,2003,2005,2006,2008
Mundial 2000,2003
18 º Bayern de Munique 2010-16
Bundesliga 2009-10, 2012–13, 2013–14, 2014–15 e 2015–16
Pokai 2009-10, 2012-13, 2013-14 2015-16
Champions League 2012-13
Mundial 2013
Olimpique Lyonnais ligue 1 2000-08 domination, coupe de france 2007-08, coupe de la ligue 2001-02, trophees des champions 2002-07
ReplyDeleteThis list is ranked by team performance. The achievement is just a supportive detail. Even Lyon won many trophies, their performance to acquire the trophy is not necessary to have been great enough.
DeleteTorino were 5 times champions in a row. Where is Mazzola Sr?
ReplyDeleteThere was an interval of 2 years between the first and second trophy so the set of player are quite different. The selected team covers only 4 trophies.
DeleteHave you implemented methodology here?
ReplyDeleteThanks for reminding me because I really forgot. I only compared them case by case based on trophy and time spending. I will implement soon.
ReplyDeleteOk, thanks for the reply.
DeleteCould you make most dominant national teams list like this? Shouldn't be too hard to do since you already have all the precise scores.
ReplyDeleteNational teams played only 1 major tournament within 2 years and and most of team players are highly changed between tournament. Also, a few of them could achieve two trophies in row. So, I think the dominance is not a focused topic for now.
ReplyDeleteThe obvious choices are only Spain (2008 - 2012), Germany (1972 - 1974), France (between 1998 and 2000) while Brazil (Between 1958 and 1962) is not qualified since they didn't win the 1959 Copa America.
Yeah, that makes sense, i just thought it would be interesting to see. I wouldn't put as a criteria to win 2 consecutive competitions, maybe reaching finals is enough. I'll just set my own simple criteria and see the results.
DeleteJust one more question: Are these all the clubs that meet the requirements to be considered "dominant"?
ReplyDeleteYes, I checked all potential candidate by the European Cup/Copa Libertadores winners. Only 2 titles within 5 years span will be eligible in preliminary step and then check number of league titles.
DeleteDoes current real madrid have a chance to be included here? They won 3 champions league titles in 4 seasons (let's pretend for a moment that it wasn't rigged by refs). I know that they don't meet requirements because of little success in league but maybe that means that requirements need a little change?
ReplyDeleteI have a more flexible idea. In case the league title is acquired only 1 time, it should compensate by 2 UCL titles. In case Real Madrid won either UCL or league title in next season, I'll include them.
DeleteNew no.1 This RM side was voted as the greatest side in history already in 2017. Now they have just shoved aside all doubt.
ReplyDeleteHello, just one question, in Real Madrid "Galacticos I" do you consider 10 or 11 seasons?
ReplyDeleteAccording to the Span listed in the table are 11 so I understand that you should include the 6 European Cups won by the club and not 5 as listed in the aforementioned table (from season 1955-56 to season 1965-66).
I understand that it is fair to consider those 11 seasons and not just 10.
Otherwise congratulate you for your extraordinary blogs on football and encourage you to continue with your sensational work.
The number of European cup titles should have been 6 not 5. I have corrected it. Thanks you for checking and encouraging.
DeleteAdd 66-67 season for Ajax please
ReplyDelete